I'm newly busy as a
student, and have not had a chance to respond to
phamos818 in a considered, concise way. I will now attempt to do so. But first, I highly recommend reading my
previous post, including the comments--this post presumes familiarity with my comments there, especially
these two. I did most of the heavy lifting there. (Note: there was no Part III--which was meant to be my summation. Instead this post will sum up my view of the views of Jack Donnelly and, to the extent she agrees with him, of the views of phamos818.)
I was trying to draw out phamos818's views on the topics of metaphysics, epistemology, and ethics, the branches of philosophy which underpin and justify one's political philosophy. I got, in her words, "
mainstream liberal universalist thinking" on human rights specifically, but I think I got enough of the underlying philosophy, particularly in epistemology and ethics, to better understand her approach to politics. Now I take it that Jack Donnelly and phamos818 are (largely) of one mind, and if she disagrees with him, she is welcome to jump into the comments and do so. But Jack Donnelly's epistemology and ethics seems to be: what is true and good is whatever society believes to be true and good, so long as said society is one in which social-democratic left-liberals like Jack Donnelly are the leading authorities on truth and goodness and the public unquestioningly follows their lead. Donnelly's book is one long "
because I--and here, I speak not just for myself, but for pretty much the whole democratic world outside of crazy right-wing Americans, so let's say 'we' instead--because we said so!" I could say much more, but my previous comments--along with some perceptive comments by
ilcylic on the previous post--pretty much capture my views. Rather than drone about how insipid and ludicrous I find the left-liberal approach, I'll outsource the job to William Voegeli, a conservative with whom I disagree on, for example, abortion--I'm pro-choice, while he, as far as I can tell, is not. And he uses "liberal" where I would use "left-liberal." Plus, he has attacked Objectivism--par for the course among conservatives to prove that they are neither Godless nor "extremists." Otherwise, it's a great article! (Hey, if phamos818 can outsource, so can I!) I've quoted this article
before, but I suggest phamos818--and anyone else interested in these matters--read the whole thing. Even in the age of Obama--whom phamos818 has recently criticized from the left (
with the assistance of Matt Taibbi)--I think left-liberals like phamos818 and Donnelly have a major intellectual problem to solve.
Here's Voegeli's conclusion:
"Ultimately, a public philosophy based on the common good won't work unless it can make useful distinctions about what is and isn't common, and what is and isn't good. As it stands, common-good liberalism is just case-by-case liberalism on stilts. In the fight between those who say big ideas are indispensable to the resuscitation of liberalism and those who say big ideas are incompatible with the essence of liberalism, the scorecard shows that, so far, both sides are right."